Comments on: A repoll for the design category http://www.indibloggies.org/a-repoll-for-the-design-category India's first and very own desi blog awards, the Indibloggies are publicly-chosen awards conferred on bloggers from India and of Indian origin settled elsewhere. Wed, 07 Jan 2009 05:08:04 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: world from my eyes - दुनिया मेरी नजर से!! » इंडिब्लॉगीज़ 2005, परिणाम घोषित!! http://www.indibloggies.org/a-repoll-for-the-design-category/comment-page-1#comment-304 world from my eyes - दुनिया मेरी नजर से!! » इंडिब्लॉगीज़ 2005, परिणाम घोषित!! Sat, 14 Jan 2006 22:06:15 +0000 http://indibloggies.org/a-repoll-for-the-design-category#comment-304 [...] कुछ आशंकाओं, उलझनों और एक पुर्नमतदान के बाद आखिरकार इंडिब्लॉगीज़ 2005 के परिणाम देबाशीश ने घोषित कर ही दिए, और जैसी कि उम्मीद थी, अमित वर्मा सर्वश्रेष्ठ भारतीय ब्लॉग की बाज़ी मार ले गए!! पाकिस्तान में मज़े कर रहे अमित ने अवश्य बटर चिकन और तंदूरी बकरे के साथ इस जीत को मनाया होगा!! यह विचारणीय तथ्य है कि एक वर्ष पूर्व 2004 में अमित ने इसी ब्लॉग के लिए सर्वश्रेष्ठ नए भारतीय ब्लॉग का पुरस्कार जीता था(इंडिब्लॉगीज़ 2004)। [...] [...] कुछ आशंकाओं, उलझनों और एक पुर्नमतदान के बाद आखिरकार इंडिब्लॉगीज़ 2005 के परिणाम देबाशीश ने घोषित कर ही दिए, और जैसी कि उम्मीद थी, अमित वर्मा सर्वश्रेष्ठ भारतीय ब्लॉग की बाज़ी मार ले गए!! पाकिस्तान में मज़े कर रहे अमित ने अवश्य बटर चिकन और तंदूरी बकरे के साथ इस जीत को मनाया होगा!! यह विचारणीय तथ्य है कि एक वर्ष पूर्व 2004 में अमित ने इसी ब्लॉग के लिए सर्वश्रेष्ठ नए भारतीय ब्लॉग का पुरस्कार जीता था(इंडिब्लॉगीज़ 2004)। [...]

]]> By: Suyog http://www.indibloggies.org/a-repoll-for-the-design-category/comment-page-1#comment-296 Suyog Fri, 13 Jan 2006 20:02:44 +0000 http://indibloggies.org/a-repoll-for-the-design-category#comment-296 That does clear up my misconceptions debashish - thank you for replying to the post. I think I made a mistake in understanding the rules and messed up further on it by assuming things. My sincere apologies... Cheers... waiting for the results now :) !!! Suyog That does clear up my misconceptions debashish - thank you for replying to the post. I think I made a mistake in understanding the rules and messed up further on it by assuming things. My sincere apologies…

Cheers… waiting for the results now :) !!!

Suyog

]]> By: Suyog http://www.indibloggies.org/a-repoll-for-the-design-category/comment-page-1#comment-294 Suyog Fri, 13 Jan 2006 17:21:15 +0000 http://indibloggies.org/a-repoll-for-the-design-category#comment-294 I am not making an accusation, I am making an observation pal; I am sorry if I intepreted it wrong - Example: Vulturo was nominated for best design previously. After it was discovered that he used K2, his nomination was revoked. Now the rules have changed and suddenly he is eligible again for the award. Mayhaps, the sequence of events made me think that rules were being modified to suit ppl. My apologies if you think I got it all wrong. Maybe I did get it all wrong... and this is not what you meant or intended either. Either case, I hope this clears the misunderstanding... Cheers! Suyog <strong>Debashish replied:</strong><em> "After it was discovered that he used K2, his nomination was revoked. "</em> Dude if you have not noted already, please be informed that "all blogs" nominated through delicious for this category were included for the final Poll to make it a levelled playing field for all. All of them. So the rule was changed to "there are no rules" and all are eligible. We also refrained from providing any additional details about the blog-designs to readers so as not to prejudice the. We made a mistake in "rating" them so we left the decision to the "junta". I am not making an accusation, I am making an observation pal; I am sorry if I intepreted it wrong - Example: Vulturo was nominated for best design previously. After it was discovered that he used K2, his nomination was revoked. Now the rules have changed and suddenly he is eligible again for the award. Mayhaps, the sequence of events made me think that rules were being modified to suit ppl.

My apologies if you think I got it all wrong. Maybe I did get it all wrong… and this is not what you meant or intended either. Either case, I hope this clears the misunderstanding…

Cheers!

Suyog

Debashish replied: “After it was discovered that he used K2, his nomination was revoked. “
Dude if you have not noted already, please be informed that “all blogs” nominated through delicious for this category were included for the final Poll to make it a levelled playing field for all. All of them. So the rule was changed to “there are no rules” and all are eligible. We also refrained from providing any additional details about the blog-designs to readers so as not to prejudice the. We made a mistake in “rating” them so we left the decision to the “junta”.

]]> By: Bonatellis http://www.indibloggies.org/a-repoll-for-the-design-category/comment-page-1#comment-293 Bonatellis Fri, 13 Jan 2006 12:52:10 +0000 http://indibloggies.org/a-repoll-for-the-design-category#comment-293 ok, so when are the results gonna be out??? ok, so when are the results gonna be out???

]]> By: Dubukku http://www.indibloggies.org/a-repoll-for-the-design-category/comment-page-1#comment-292 Dubukku Fri, 13 Jan 2006 09:35:57 +0000 http://indibloggies.org/a-repoll-for-the-design-category#comment-292 I second Amit Gupta. Using a free template without modification probly. reflects the taste and the award for the category should be "Best Design Taste" award ;) In my opinion for the free templates blog the award needs to go the original designer and not to the people who have used them unless consideration customisation has been done. (I know then there will be issue of how to quantify this "considerable customisation" ) No offence meant and I respect whatever decision has been made for this poll. Just for your consideration next time. I second Amit Gupta.
Using a free template without modification probly. reflects the taste and the award for the category should be “Best Design Taste” award ;)

In my opinion for the free templates blog the award needs to go the original designer and not to the people who have used them unless consideration customisation has been done.
(I know then there will be issue of how to quantify this “considerable customisation” )

No offence meant and I respect whatever decision has been made for this poll.
Just for your consideration next time.

]]> By: Bhupendra Singh http://www.indibloggies.org/a-repoll-for-the-design-category/comment-page-1#comment-291 Bhupendra Singh Fri, 13 Jan 2006 07:55:26 +0000 http://indibloggies.org/a-repoll-for-the-design-category#comment-291 Indibloggies is a better site than others. My congratulations to the concerned editor and all members of the team. Design is execellent and very attractive. In future, this site will go ahead. With the best compliments, -Bhupendra Singh Indibloggies is a better site than others. My congratulations to the concerned editor and all members of the team. Design is execellent and very attractive. In future, this site will go ahead. With the best compliments,
-Bhupendra Singh

]]> By: Amit Gupta http://www.indibloggies.org/a-repoll-for-the-design-category/comment-page-1#comment-290 Amit Gupta Fri, 13 Jan 2006 07:32:31 +0000 http://indibloggies.org/a-repoll-for-the-design-category#comment-290 Well, I'd say that I agree to it as well that this award should go to ones who are not using free templates & rather created one themselves!! Taking a free template & using it doesn't make a person worthy of being awarded best blog design prize, since he did nothing to <em>design</em> his blog & I think that the allowance that a blog can be considered if it has significant changes to the free theme should be made so that the changes to the theme have to be visual. Making changes behind the scene in HTML or PHP code etc which are not visible shouldn't count, since its an award for design & not coding etc. Besides, more than one person might be using the same theme & both of them might be nominated. then what? Obviously the person who's popular among the visitors here will get more(or all) votes, which IMHO is not fair!! I know its late for these suggestions, & I'm not giving them for now, just thought that I should voice my suggestions to be considered for the next year!! :) Well, I’d say that I agree to it as well that this award should go to ones who are not using free templates & rather created one themselves!! Taking a free template & using it doesn’t make a person worthy of being awarded best blog design prize, since he did nothing to design his blog & I think that the allowance that a blog can be considered if it has significant changes to the free theme should be made so that the changes to the theme have to be visual. Making changes behind the scene in HTML or PHP code etc which are not visible shouldn’t count, since its an award for design & not coding etc. Besides, more than one person might be using the same theme & both of them might be nominated. then what? Obviously the person who’s popular among the visitors here will get more(or all) votes, which IMHO is not fair!!

I know its late for these suggestions, & I’m not giving them for now, just thought that I should voice my suggestions to be considered for the next year!! :)

]]> By: curious ming http://www.indibloggies.org/a-repoll-for-the-design-category/comment-page-1#comment-289 curious ming Thu, 12 Jan 2006 22:07:13 +0000 http://indibloggies.org/a-repoll-for-the-design-category#comment-289 When are the results out? <strong>Debashish replied: </strong><em>Hopefully by Jan 15th. Am pretty swamped right now.</em> When are the results out?

Debashish replied: Hopefully by Jan 15th. Am pretty swamped right now.

]]> By: KarmaDude http://www.indibloggies.org/a-repoll-for-the-design-category/comment-page-1#comment-288 KarmaDude Thu, 12 Jan 2006 17:35:22 +0000 http://indibloggies.org/a-repoll-for-the-design-category#comment-288 My only aside is when you use a template,containing hardly any substantial redesign, the credit has to go to the person who designed it, not the person who uses it. Just because I like a template and use it, does not translate to the credit going to me, the user, for the design, that would be a copyright violation and unethical! Using the services of a designer to design your blog is fine, as long as the designer is credited as well, unless he has given up all copyrights to his design. My only aside is when you use a template,containing hardly any substantial redesign, the credit has to go to the person who designed it, not the person who uses it. Just because I like a template and use it, does not translate to the credit going to me, the user, for the design, that would be a copyright violation and unethical!

Using the services of a designer to design your blog is fine, as long as the designer is credited as well, unless he has given up all copyrights to his design.

]]> By: Suyog http://www.indibloggies.org/a-repoll-for-the-design-category/comment-page-1#comment-287 Suyog Thu, 12 Jan 2006 15:28:56 +0000 http://indibloggies.org/a-repoll-for-the-design-category#comment-287 "My own conviction about this category was not to really care who designed it; the site-owner might have got it done from a professional designer, s/he might be a designer himself or s/he simply uses a template designed by others with or without customization." -- I am sorry I dont agree with this. You are saying that people who will eventually win and get the prizes are the people who merely took the theme and put it on their site, because it reflect their taste? So, wouldnt it be fair that ppl who actually designed the site (and in most cases ppl they are not Indians) should also get the award? So, in that respect anybody using Squible or Hemingway themes for wordpress are eligible because they are excellent themes, both in design and layout. I think either (a) this category of awards should not exist or (b) if at all this category is to be awarded, then "originality" and "creativity" should be the key, and how the blogger has put in effort towards the same. If there is only 1 contestant - fine - that contestant should be awarded, but modifying the rules/regulations just to suit the awards, and to include ppl who otherwise would not have been seems rather vague to me. I did rather not vote in this category at all then hehe :) Cheers! Suyog <strong>Debashish replied:</strong><blockquote>...but modifying the rules/regulations just to suit the awards, and to include ppl who otherwise would not have been seems rather vague to me. </blockquote><em>And what makes you think that rules were modified? Do have a look at past winners in this category! You are are free to express your opinion, but please do watch your words before you make any lame accusations here on this site. </em> “My own conviction about this category was not to really care who designed it; the site-owner might have got it done from a professional designer, s/he might be a designer himself or s/he simply uses a template designed by others with or without customization.”

– I am sorry I dont agree with this. You are saying that people who will eventually win and get the prizes are the people who merely took the theme and put it on their site, because it reflect their taste? So, wouldnt it be fair that ppl who actually designed the site (and in most cases ppl they are not Indians) should also get the award? So, in that respect anybody using Squible or Hemingway themes for wordpress are eligible because they are excellent themes, both in design and layout.

I think either (a) this category of awards should not exist or (b) if at all this category is to be awarded, then “originality” and “creativity” should be the key, and how the blogger has put in effort towards the same. If there is only 1 contestant - fine - that contestant should be awarded, but modifying the rules/regulations just to suit the awards, and to include ppl who otherwise would not have been seems rather vague to me.

I did rather not vote in this category at all then hehe :) Cheers!

Suyog

Debashish replied:

…but modifying the rules/regulations just to suit the awards, and to include ppl who otherwise would not have been seems rather vague to me.

And what makes you think that rules were modified? Do have a look at past winners in this category! You are are free to express your opinion, but please do watch your words before you make any lame accusations here on this site.

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